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  Whitney Heichel killed by multiple gunshots

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  autopsy - whitney killed by multiple gunshots.. http://www.koinlocal6.com/mostpopular/story/autopsy-whitney-killed-by-multiple-gunshots/pfbmma18luksrgnszxpxfq.cspx.

  salem, ore. -- the oregon state medical examiner's office announced monday the death of 21-year-old whitney heichel was caused by multiple gunshot wounds.

  heichel's body was found friday afternoon on larch mountain in east multnomah county.. .

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  Also the fact that Jonathan Holt was just an acquaintance of the Heichel's is a total lie. Not in the "truth" he was their spiritual brother.

  When the pedophile that dated my sister moved into our hall and I told the elders that he had been in prison for child rape they asked where was my proof. Here I was an elder's wife and they were basically calling me a liar. The elders never checked the facts just called me a lair and we even had an attorney elder in the hall who could have easley gotten the records when I told them. But no they let this guy interact with everyone including the kids in the hall.

  So I got this guys PUBLIC court records and the records said he was an incurable sexual psychopath highly likely to reoffend. Not only would the elders not take the copies of the court records I retrieved but one elder acted like I had broken the law to have them. They were records PUBLIC. Open to the PUBLIC!

  So anyway I went to the CO and DO about it. Both the CO and DO flipped out at me worried that I might tell someone in the hall what I knew.

  Since my husband was an elder at the time we would feed the speaker, the pedophile wanted to come along and I told the body of elders I would NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS EAT WITH A MAN WHO HAD RAPED KIDS.

  I got into trouble for that because this man was my "BROTHER" in the "truth" and I had better treat him like a BROTHER PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was told.

  So for now to hear them say that Holt was just an acquaintance of the Heichel's is a huge lie. He was a baptized brother in the truth. He was Whitney's spiritual brother.

  I am sure being she was so young that is why she gave him a ride we were all brain washed to let go of our better judgment and do what the elders told us.

  Plus I truly wonder what the elders knew about Holt and just never told anyone. Like the child molesters in my hall, we had three at one time and NO ONE WAS ALLOWED TO KNOW!!!!!!! Could the elders have stopped this from happening?

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  Whitney Heichel killed by multiple gunshots

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  autopsy - whitney killed by multiple gunshots.. http://www.koinlocal6.com/mostpopular/story/autopsy-whitney-killed-by-multiple-gunshots/pfbmma18luksrgnszxpxfq.cspx.

  salem, ore. -- the oregon state medical examiner's office announced monday the death of 21-year-old whitney heichel was caused by multiple gunshot wounds.

  heichel's body was found friday afternoon on larch mountain in east multnomah county.. .

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  I am positive that the ones at Bethel are flipped out about this being so public.

  When I was first married there was an MS who flipped out and threatened to kill my husband and myself.

  I was in my mid 20's at the time and my husband was the only elder in the hall. This guy had went to his work place and threatened to kill his coworkers and thus he was fired from his job, I do not know what happened to him with regards to the police there but I do know that before we went to the police ourselves my husband insisted on calling Bethel. The first "brother" my husband spoke to told us to go straight to the police and acted like my husband was crazy to have to had to even called in Bethel in the first place.

  We were walking out the door to go to the police when the phone rang again, oh how I wish we had not answered but it was Bethel calling back and this other "brother" was on the phone all flipped out telling us that what ever we do we were not to get the police involved in anyway. Bethel wanted the police out of it and it was to be handled in the congregation only.

  Needless to say the next two years of my life were hell. This guy would call me up on the phone telling me he had killed my husband while he was at an elders meeting, or he would come into the place where I worked and would point his finger at me like it was a gun and shoot me. He followed me all the time when I was driving, etc.

  I was just so young at the time and my husband was older, everyone in the hall told me I was making a big deal out of nothing, that I brought it on myself, etc. Only my worldly coworkers supported me telling me I was not crazy, even my husband told me I was being to paranoid about it that the MS was just talking and he would not really harm me.

  One time I was out in service with two other sisters so it as just the three of us in the car. This guys spots us and started to follow us. I told the sisters that he was following us and they said he was probably just going to the store or something and that I was crazy. They both got out of the car to go into the post office and the guy appears out of no where and blocked me in the car leaning into the car. I jumped out the other side and ran into the post office shaking and very upset. The two sisters came out the the guy had vanished they told me I was crazy and that it did not happen.

  Yet after we left the hall to go to Bethel the MS started to stalk one of those sisters and I found out by accident that the older one slept in her closet with a butcher knife. Yet I as the crazy one.

  This story really brothers me a lot as I wonder how much the elders knew about Holt and just kept it hidden in the hall not telling Whitney or her husband. I truly wonder if it could have been prevented if the elders had just been forthcoming.

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  hey cedars thanks for your apology

  by soft+gentle in

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  i also apologise for saying you are nuts and anything else i said that upset you.. i realise now that many problems result from differing perceptions - for example some of us tend more towards being realists whilst others tend more towards being idealists (of course this is a little simplistic) but it was my bingo moment this morning.

  i guess i am enough of an idealist to appreciate your writing and overall i think it is excellent.

  what i mean to say about idealism is that we would all like to see the wt go down and to believe that they are very short of money, on the brink of survival and this is such an encouraging image that may indeed be close to the truth.

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  Glad you are back Cedars. We all really need your insight.

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  Patterson on the line: Watchtower claims that paying cash bond would cause “immediate irreparable harm and hardship”

  by cedars in

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  a new article for those who are interested.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/patterson-on-the-line-watchtower-claims-that-paying-cash-bond-would-cause-immediate-irreparable-harm-and-hardship.

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  This is sort off the topic but I wanted to thank you Ceaders for all of your hard work on this subject and other posts that you have done also also. I am so horribly sorry about posters like KS and JT. It just made me sick to read what they said to you.

  I read their responses to you before I had to leave for work this morning and it really upset me the whole time I was working. You do so much for this board and to see such hate and meanness that is so uncalled for toward you is just amazing. It just totally brings me down. I just do not understand them. Why are they so hateful? What is their payback?

  I loved your take on this subject you bring things out points that I have not thought of and that I cannot express so well and you make total sense to me as you also clearly do to many, many other posters on this board.Please do not quit doing you great work.

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  The Governing Body - their own worst enemy!

  by cedars in

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  i've been giving some thought recently to what's going on in the minds of the individual governing body members, and what makes them tick.

  the process of listening to their talks for my "getting to know you" youtube video series, though draining, has been very enlightening.

  i now feel i know some of their individual personalities a little better than i did previously.. then there has been the tumultuous events of 2012. it's been interesting to note the way the governing body has responded to some of these issues, and how in most cases their responses have been woefully inadequate or even counter-productive as regards their long-term interests.. for example:.

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  Thanks ceaders loved your post. I love the way you reason you help me understand things that I know in my gut but do not know how to put into words. You have given me a lot to think about today at work.

  Thank you for still posting here. I would hate to see you truly leave as your posts are the best.

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  For everyone hurting right now

  by tornapart in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieyes40ug6w.

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  Thank you that was a great song and a nice way to start today.

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  SAD news about OOMPA......

  by redredrose in

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  our friend, oompa, has passed away.

  just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.

  it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.

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  never a jw if you will go back and read OOMPA's posts you will know that it was totally JW related.

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  SAD news about OOMPA......

  by redredrose in

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  our friend, oompa, has passed away.

  just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.

  it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.

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  I am just so sorry

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  A question for Undercover and others

  by tornapart in

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  undercover, i was interested in your last post and how you felt that believing in god is a delusion.

  i'm not interested in any debates over it but i saw you have been here for 10 years!

  that's some stay!

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  Hi everyone

  by mouthy in

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  i'm still here .

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  ((((((((((((((Hugs)))))))))))) Grace, I am so glad you are still here, do not know what we would do without you, you mean the world to me. I will never forget that you were the first one to reach out to me. I wil never forget your kindness to me, how just knowing someone cared meant the world to me. Thank you so much.

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